house a totally new strategy. i mean, confronting -- for example, everybody's talking about, okay, now comes the debt ceiling. that's, frankly, a dead loser. >> john boehner doesn't think that way and you know it. >> he has to learn to think that way. >> remember in the candy crowly debate and mitt romney trying to get the president on benghazi and there's this moment and the president just goes, please proceed, governor. it strikes me that this is almost a, please proceed gop moment because it's a disaster for the gop and for our economy if they take this to the brink with the debt ceiling and the government shutdown. he needs to be, you know, go ahead, gop, what are the cuts specifically that you want? because they have never been able to do that. what's the plan? let them, let boehner and the guys wrest wl their own caucus, whoever's willing to go to the brink and there are a significant number who are willing to take the country to the brink.